i had had a political science professor who told me back in the '80s the soviets were mar for worried about a xerox machine than a cruise missile in west germany and she was right. >> the empowerment of information of people is really the way to solve almost every problem. when we went to north korea our idea was that if we could just get a little bit of the internet in there it would bring some doubt to this regime, somehow let people know maybe there's another choice besides this guy and this structure. we don't know if it's happened. but if you look at other governments, that little bit of internet allowed people to say, hey, we're not getting any economic growth, we're not getting any religious freedom. we need something better an allow them to organize. >> so where is google right now? how are you guys doing? the change that continues and the business landscape, but especially in your corner of the business landscape is just -- pretty damn radical and dramatic from net scape to yahoo! to google to facebook to apple. is apple up or is apple down. how are you guys doing? what's nex